Ancestors ~ Paternal Line ~ of Danny J Loveless ~ Part 1

Some of Our  Handsome  Men in Our Family

Some of Our Handsome Men in Our Family

For my blog this week I would like to start to share my husbands, Danny J Loveless’s paternal family line. It’s still a work in progress so if any of my readers could give me any advice I would be grateful for any feedback I receive. I will add some other blogs as I am able to finish getting all the facts figured out on some of the different interesting Family member’s and the stories in their lives.
Danny’s father died when he was only nine years old. He has two half-brothers from him, but they are 20 plus years older than him and one is deceased. They both had families of their own to care for as Danny was growing up so he did not interact much about their family history. Danny admittedly told me that he knew very little about his father’s family history because of his own lack of interest. Now as he has gotten older he has expressed an interest, so I have tried to learn what I could from the different genealogy sites that I use for family history research.

Here is what I have been able to piece together to this point.

Ancestors ~ Paternal Line ~ of Danny J Loveless
William Lovelace Luvlaz (1247 – 1270) is Danny’s 19th Great Grandfather (GGF)
John I Lovelace (1270 – 1300) is Danny’s 18th GGF
John Lovelace II (1300 – 1363) 17th GGF
John Lovelace III
(1330 – 1417) 16th GGF
John Lovelace IV (1360 – 1417) 15th GGF
Robert Richard Lovelace (1395 – 1466) 14th GGF
William John Lovelace (1435 – 1495) 13th GGF
Sir William Lovelace II (1480 – 1541) 12th GGF
William Lovelace III
(1527 – 1577) 11th GGF
Sir William IV Lovelace (1561 – 1628) 10th GGF
Sir William Lovelace (1583 – 1627) 9th GGF
Thomas Lovelace (1615 – 1689) 8th GGF
Thomas William Lovelace (1650 – 1763) 7th GGF
John Baptist Lovelace (1689 – 1765) 6th GGF
Thomas Loveless
(1706 – 1736) 5th GGF
John Loveless (1736 – 1811) 4th GGF
Joseph Loveless (1778 – 1829) 3rd GGF
John Jasper Loveless (1807 – 1880) 2nd GGF
James Washington Loveless
(1828 – 1889) GGF
David Henry Loveless (1862 – 1934) Grandfather
Carl Edwin Loveless (1904 – 1962) Father
Danny J Loveless Son of Carl Edwin Loveless

Some Interesting Loveless/Lovelace History that I found as I researched Danny’s family history:

1. The family names of Loveless and Lovelace all began as Lovelace.
• In pre-revolutionary
times the family was divided by political interests.
• The Tories or Royalists kept the Lovelace name and either returned to Europe or removed to Canada.
• In defiance the Patriots or Rebels who wanted to break away from England and to become Americans changed the name to Loveless. As you can see we come through the Patriots or “Rebel” side of the family 😉 This helps me understand where my husband got the Rebel in him.

2. In early records the Loveless/Lovelace name appears under many different spellings including Loulas; Luvlace; Loveles; Lovelisse; Lawless; Laghless; Laueless; Loweless; Lovelas; Louelace; Lovelass; Lovis.

3. Tradition says that the name originated from Loheac, who was a captain of a free company in the service of Edward the Black Prince, and he subsequently settled in England. I was not able to find any proof to back up this claim or to find out the first name of this man named Loheac or where he came from. Edward the Black Prince lived from 1330-1376. He was one of the most famous warriors of the middle ages. John Lovelace II (1300 – 1363) who is Danny’s 17th GGF, John Lovelace III (1330 – 1417) who is Danny’s 16th GGF and John Lovelace IV (1360 – 1417) who is Danny’s 15th GGF. These men all lived during Edward the Black Princes time period however to date I have not been able to find any data that links any of them with Edward the Black Prince. I have also been able to find an additional two generations of Danny’s family line, John I Lovelace (1270 – 1300) is Danny’s 18th GGF and William Lovelace/Luvlaz (1247 – 1270) is Danny’s 19th Great Grandfather (GGF) I do have my doubts as to the actual facts of this claim, but I try to keep an open mind and I will keep researching until I can prove or disprove its claim.

4. Lovelace (Loveless) is an old English surname derived from the “wearing of a love token”.

5. The Lovelace’s are Bethersden England’s most famous family; William Luvelaz is the earliest recorded member of this town and he is shown as witness to a Bethersden deed not later than 1247.

6. John Lovelace III (1330 – 1417), Danny’s 16th GGF; in 1367 purchased from William Kinet a manor in Bethersden, that was west of the parish church, which was afterwards variously known as “Bethersden”, “Bethersden-Lovelace”:, and “Lovelace Place”.

7. John Lovelace IV (1360 – 1417), Danny’s 15th GGF. He is mentioned as proprietor of the Lovelace Place, this took place in 1412 when he bought some marble pits in Bethersden from John Gybon. He died before April 15, 1417. A charter from Henry V (who reigned 1413-1422) mentions John Lovelace IV as heirs and landholders in Bethersden, and John Lovelace IV was buried with wife Joane or Johanna in the Bethersden Church.

8. Sir William Lovelace,(1583 -1628) Danny’s 9th great grandfather died in the great battle Siege of Groll, Holland, in the Netherlands. He married about or sometime before 1610, the granddaughter of an Elizabethan Chief Baron of the Exchequer, Her name was Lady Katheren Anne Barnes. She was born about 1587, the youngest child of Sir William Barne(s) and Anne Sandys. Known as Sir William Lovelace of Woolwich through his new wife’s estate but was called Sir William the younger in will. In May, 1609, he was referred to as Captain William Lovelace, who was a member of the Virginia Co. and a Knight of Bethersden-Kent, and direct ancestor of the Bethersden line.

9. Richard Lovelace, (1582 – 1657) Danny’s 8th great grand uncle, was the oldest son of Sir William IV Lovelace (1561 – 1628), Danny’s 9th GGF, and the Brother of Sir William Lovelace, Danny’s 8th great grandfather (1583 -1628). Richard Lovelace was known as the Cavalier poet, courtier and soldier. In 1642 it was wrote that Richard Lovelace, was “reputed to be the handsomest man in England.” This explains where the men in our family get their good looks. During this time England was faced with the prospect of war with France, so King William asked Parliament to authorize the creation of a standing army in England. This they refused. Many in England were angered by the decision and sent appeals to Parliament to that effect. The people of Kent (the county closest to France and so the most likely to be ruined, and the one that the Lovelace family lived in) wrote the “Kentish Petition” and chose five men to carry it to London to present it to Parliament, Richard Lovelace was one of this five men. The Commons declared the petition seditious, and the men were arrested and imprisoned. Richard Lovelace was sent to the Gatehouse Prison, Westminster.
Lovelace petitioned the Commons for his liberty, and late in June 1642 he was released on personal bail of £IO, 000. Unable, without forfeiting his bail, to fight for Charles I, he instead supplied his brothers with money. Lovelace is known to have been at Bethersden at various dates between 1642 and 1647, he was selling his property there piece by piece to Richard Hulse of Great Chart. In 1645 and 1646 he was in the Low Countries, serving apparently as a Colonel in the French army, and he was wounded at Dunkirk in 1646. After his return to England, he was among the Royalists that defeated and captured Fairfax at Maidstone in 1648. Once again he was imprisoned in London; he died aged less than 40 in 1657 and was buried at St. Bride’s, Fleet Street.

10. During the Commonwealth the poet’s, Richard Lovelace’s surviving brothers, Capt. Thomas, Col. Francis and Capt. Dudley Posthumus Lovelace all went to America, and after the Restoration, Francis Lovelace was the Governor of New York 1669-72. Captain William Lovelace, Danny’s 9th great grandfather (1583 -1628) who died in battle was not able to go to America, but he was one of the original members of the Virginia Co and some of his children were able to go to America. Among them was Thomas Lovelace (1615 – 1689) Danny’s 8th GGF who settled in New York, and his older sister Anne Barne Lovelace and her husband John (Rev) Gorsuch who settled in Jamestown Virginia. This is why, and when those in our Lovelace family came to live in America.
Loveless Lovelace Line

How Do We Choose to Record the Many Layers & Flavors of Our Family History?

How do we define sensitive subjects and the feelings these subjects generate that make us want to keep our heads in the sand?

How can we hope for any change in those “gray areas” when we are doing our Family History, when some individuals are superb at many diversionary tactics that will make it difficult for some to find out what the real facts are?

Nothing sparks a family argument faster or gets people more heated than the two basic evils: Democrats and Republicans 😉  … Okay, seriously in most families it’s always been religion, politics and differences of opinions over family history that will spark the points of contention. So the question is how do you keep all the different family members working to find a common and acceptable agreement when we seem to always collide over any one of these subjects?

Everyone who does any genealogy loves to brag about their famous ancestors they find in their family tree and for the most part that is a good thing.   On the other side of that coin are those who happen to find the “Hitler’s” that are in their family tree which makes them want to hide and never talk about those dirty and sometimes shady parts of their family history . Though out history it has been shown that many have gone to great lengths to keep their embarrassing family “secrets” buried and hidden even to the point of destroying any documents that would tell of anything that was not wanted to be known publicly. This Makes doing genealogy difficult if not impossible for those in that family blood line to sort out their family history when there is big gaps that have been changed or erased all together.  Anything that went against the “Norm” of society was just not talked about or it was covered over.  In some cases an account of something shady might have been written down in one family members account but the same thing was either changed or deleted from another’s.  Areas such as criminals with jail time, children born out of marriage, maybe even having members of the family in radical groups, like the SS or KKK were some of the sore spots.  Then there are other tender subjects we come across in our family research, things like suicides, mental illness, homosexual relationships, domestic abuse, or alcohol and drug abuse, polygamy or interracial marriages to just name a few of those “Taboo” subjects that in some accounts were avoided or recorded differently than what really happen but none the less they were still  a part of those families history.

While I am sure that there are areas, which no matter what a person’s beliefs are on any certain subject, for one reason or another they will never be able to agree or want to understand someone whose opinions do not match theirs. The purpose of my blog this week is not to find out who is right or wrong but rather as someone who loves to do genealogy I want to try to learn how to continue my family research when in some cases so few documents still exists on certain family lines, or I find conflicting documents so not sure how to continue on and be as accurate as possible.  My personal goal is to overcome the problems caused by the many things that the families of that time wanted to hide. Another matter I struggle with is once you do find something in your family history that might not be “socially” acceptable even in our time or would for sure embarrass someone in your family, how do you go about recording it accurately and in a manner that is acceptable ?

There are many who only want to know the exciting and upbeat parts of their family trees and for them only knowing the names, and vital statistics like dates and places of the births and deaths are all that is important to them in their genealogy research. This is where they draw the line and any facts that are uncomfortable, embarrassing, or they just do not agree with are deleted from their family history. They believe family history is a private matter that needs to be kept private and only the upbeat things should be shared.

Then, there are those like me that feels that any type of history should consist of the truth and wrote down accurately and completely.  I am a person who not only wants but needs to know as many facts as I possibly can on all those in my family and this means the “Good, the Bad and the Ugly”.  Until the puzzle feels completed I keep looking. I guess this is my OC that is coming out in my family history research, but I do feel it’s vitally important to know the complete truth.   I do not think less of, or get embarrassed by the choices that my past family members made in their lives that were different from what my own personal moral code is. I truly enjoy the personal, human side of family history which helps me to understand what the times and areas were like for my different family ancestors and this brings me comfort knowing that they too were human and made their share of mistakes. I gain a whole new level of gratitude for the blessings of my life as I have read the different ways others learned to cope with the hardships of their own lives.  I now feel I better understand myself enough to know that what is the best and right course for me, is not always the best and right course for other who might also share the same family blood lines as me.

I find it interesting as I watch the TV show “Who Do You Think You Are?”   Before the professional genealogist reveals any unflattering family news they always ask the star if they are sure they want to know the whole truth.  My answer would always be YES !!


So my questions this week to my blog readers is this.

  1. How do you deal with the many different layers and flavors of your family research?
  2. If you find facts along your research that is in those “grey areas” of being socially unacceptable things do you still share it in your public family research areas?
  3. If you currently have things in your family that are in those “grey areas” of being socially unacceptable, will you do like those of the past did and cover them up, or will you record the facts and the truths as they are?

~ Hannah Bradbury ~ My Paternal 2nd Great-Grandmother ~ A Lady of Many Mysteries for Me ~

My paternal 2nd Great Grandmother, Hannah Bradbury Barrett Hall.

My paternal 2nd Great Grandmother, Hannah Bradbury Barrett Hall.

Have you ever come across a family ancestor in your research that the more you find out about them the more questions you have about them? That is what I’ve been going through that last few years as I have tried to find more documents on my paternal 2nd Great Grandmother, Hannah Bradbury Barrett Hall.

For any of my readers who could guide me on “How can I find out more on English records from the early 1800’s in the Hurst Cross, Ashton-under-Lyn, Lancashire, England area”, I would be forever grateful.
For those of you who understand the English terms of the 1800’s could you look at the documents that I will post in here later in this blog and then maybe explain to me what they mean.
An example is the crime “Maliciously Wounding”, and some of the jobs that are listed that I am not sure of what they are.

Most records that I have been able to find online are from 1830 or later, and it’s believed that Hannah was born about 1829. Her mother Sarah Bradbury was born in 1813, and her grandfather Randle Bradbury was born 1784. All I know about her grandmother, who was married to Randle and was the mother of Sarah is her first name. Her first name was Margaret or Mary and she was born around 1786 in Audley, Staffordshire, England. We have no birth records on any of these Bradbury family members.
I do know that Hannah’s maternal grandfather Randle Bradbury was sent to prison in 1850 in Staffordshire, England for Larcerry and Burglary for 10 years and 2 months. Randle died while serving his time in the prison Stockport, in Congleton, Cheshire Staffordshire, England in June 1857. It does not tell where he is buried.
Randle Bradbury Prision Records 1

Randle Bradbury Prision Records  2

Death Record of Randle Bradbury

On the subject of Hannah’s mother Sarah Bradbury, I will do a blog on her at another time. Sarah’s life has left me with as many questions as her daughter Hannah. For this week’s blog I want to focus on Hannah and hopefully show my readers enough data on her, than one of you can direct me to other possible leads I might be able to follow to uncover the facts on Hannah’s life.

In my blog this week I will put in all that I have found on Hannah but I know there is still so many unanswered questions for me about her and the life of her family. Some of the stuff about the Bradbury family I learned, was through my Grandma Ellen’s biography of her father Edward Barrett. He was one of Hannah’s sons. Yet, when I try to find documents to prove or disprove facts about Hannah that we think might have happen in her life I hit a brick wall. I have even tried to research what that area of England was like during that period of time to get a feel of what their lives must have been like. I try to follow-up on any leads I find, but I only hit more brick walls and I am left with even more questions. After doing my research I now understand that those were very tough times in that area of England for the “poor working class” that the Bradbury and Barrett families were born into. They were uneducated and unable to write. For the Bradbury and Barrett families to just be able to survive it was a struggle to say the least. This meant that record keeping for future generations was the least of their concerns. I also know that those were much different times than we now live in, and some of the facts in their personal lives might have been publicly embarrassing for the family and were kept out of any public documents. Other embarrassing facts are now being found in other public documents and were not talked about then, so they were not shared in what family history was told or wrote down. I find it interesting that in the documents I have been able to find, some of the names are spelled many different ways, the facts on birth dates and places of birth are different, so how much I can count on these documents is questionable. From what I have been able to learn of Hannah, I feel that she had to have been a very strong and hardworking lady to be able to survive the level of poverty and unstable living conditions of that time. I do not try to dig up facts on her unusual life so I could judge her, but instead I want to understand how these harsh conditions of her life made her resort to making some of the choices she made to survive. I really admire her, and look up to her as a woman whose life seemed to not give her any help or kindness, yet for every known knock-down she recovered. She picked herself up and carried on and made the best out of the life until her death in 1913.

Here is the data I have found so far on Hannah Bradbury Barrett Hall:

Map of Lancashire Parishes before 1832

Birth: About 1829 in Hurst Cross, Ashton-under-Lyn, Lancashire, England
Death: 21 May 1913 in Kexborough, Darton, Lancashire, England
• I believe her Christening was when she was almost one years old, on 18 April 1830, Ashton Under Lyn, Lancaster, England, but have not any documentation on her birth or her Christening.

1841 England Census about Hannah Bradbury

1841 England Census about Hannah Bradbury
It’s says on the top “Names of those who abode therein the preceding night: so this is most likely a boarding home or some sort.
Name: Hannah Bradbury
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: about 1829
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton Under Lyne
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Higher Hurst, Ashton and Oldham, Hartshead, Lancashire, England
Occupation: On top of page it reads “Profession, Trade or Employment” under both Hannah age 12 and her mother Sarah age 30 it has written “Cotton Weaver”
Registration district: Ashton and Oldham
Sub-registration district: Hartshead
Piece: 533
Book: 6
Folio: 38
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Bradbury 30
Hannah Bradbury 12
Another point of interest for me is a column that has if the person was born in England or Outside of Country, and for both Sarah and Hannah its mark they were born in England.

•	1851 England Census about Hannah Bradbury

1851 England Census about Hannah Bradbury
Name: Hannah Bradbury
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: about 1829
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Altrincham, Cheshire, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ardwick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Lancashire
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 66 4 Elm Terrace, Crostino, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Domestic Servant
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 5f
Household schedule number: 66
Piece: 2220
Folio: 166
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
James Moore 43
Margaret Moore 39
George Moore 17
William Moore 16
Euphemia Moore 12
Agnes Moore 11
James Moore 9
Robert Moore 7
Sarah Elton 11
Robert Elton 6
Frederick Elton 4
Hannah Bradbury 22

From this 1851 England Census I was able to learn that:
James Moore’s Occupation was a Veterinary Surgeon, Head of the House
Margaret Moore, wife of James Moore
James and Margaret Moore Children were:
George Moore 17
William Moore 16
Euphemia Moore 12
Agnes Moore 11
James Moore 9
Robert Moore 7
The other 3 children listed as being in this household are listed as “Minister’s Daughter or Two Son’s at home”.
Sarah Elton 11
Robert Elton 6
Frederick Elton 4
Hannah Bradbury, my Paternal 2nd Great Grandmother was 22 at the time and listed as the Domestic Servant.

John Barrett and Hannah Bradbury Marraige Cert

• The next document I have on Hannah is the Marriage Certificate of my Paternal 2nd Great Grandfather John Barrett and Hannah Bradbury
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Hannah Bradbury
Name: Hannah Bradbury, listed as a Spinster
Gender: Female
Under the section of Brides Fathers Name is her Mother’s name: Sarah Bradbury listed as a Spinster
Spouse’s Name: John Barratt, listed as a Bachelor, job is listed as a Gardener
Spouse’s Father’s Name: Edward Barratt, listed as job of a Clogger
Marriage Date: 22 May 1859
Marriage Place: St Michael church , Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England

• When Hannah Bradbury married John Barrett she already had three children, whose names are:
John William Bradbury – 1852 – 1914
Violet Bradbury – 1856 – 1930
William Bradbury -1858 – 1858
There is no record if she had been married prior, or who the father of this three children were. On future documents John and Violet are sometime listed with the Bradbury last name and other times listed with the Barrett last name. I could not find any documents that John Barrett ever legally adopted this children.

1861 England Census about Hannah Barratt

• 1861 England Census about Hannah Barratt
Name: Hannah Barratt
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse’s Name: John Barratt
Gender: Female
Where born: Roachdale, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Ashton under Lyne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 158 Garden Cott, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Cotton Weaver
Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Ashton Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Household schedule number: 158
Piece: 2985
Folio: 100
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
John Barratt 24
Hannah Barratt 29
John Barratt 9
Violetta Barratt 5
Thomas Barratt 1

1871 England Census about Hannah Barralt

1871 England Census about Hannah Barralt
Name: Hannah Barralt
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: about 1829
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Hurst Crop, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Ashton under Lyne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 99 John Street, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Cotton Weaver
Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Audenshaw
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 99
Piece: 4075
Folio: 12
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Hannah Barralt 42
John Barralt 18 – coal miner
Violet Barralt 15 – cotton weaver
Thomas Barralt 11- laborer
Edward Barralt 8- laborer
William Barralt 5- laborer
David Barralt 2

So sad that everyone in the family was working in the coal mine or the textile factory except the youngest David age 2. During this time Hannah’s husband John Barrett was on another census in Manchester listed as a lodger, working at as a coal miner.

John & Hannah Barrett May 1878

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 about John & Hannah Barrett May 1878
Name: John & Hannah Barrett
Date of Trial: 20 May 1878
Trial Year: 1878
Location of Trial: Yorkshire – West Riding, England
Sentence: Acquitted or Discharged to be heard in another court
Crime: Maliciously Wounding

Criminal Registersabout John & Hannah Barrett - 1 Jul 1878

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 about John & Hannah Barrett – 1 Jul 1878
Name: John & Hannah Barrett
Date of Trial: 1 Jul 1878
Trial Year: 1878
Location of Trial: Yorkshire – West Riding, England
Sentence: Imprisonment – John was imprisoned for 3 month and Hannah for 2 months
Crime: Maliciously Wounding
Date of Execution or Release:

1881 England Census about Hannah Barrett

1881 England Census about Hannah Barrett
Name: Hannah Barrett
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: about 1829
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: John Barrett
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton U Line, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Emley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 5 Crawshaw Lane,
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner Wife
Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Bretton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 4570
Folio: 16
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
John Barrett 63 – coal miner
Hannah Barrett 52 – wife
Thomas Barrett 21 – coal miner
Edwd. Barrett 19 – coal miner
Wm. Barrett 16 – coal miner
David Barrett 12 – laborer

West Yorkshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1840-1962 about Hannah Barrett

West Yorkshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1840-1962 about Hannah Hall

West Yorkshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1840-1962 about Hannah Barrett
Name: Hannah Barrett
Year: 1890
Country: England
County: West Yorkshire
Parliamentary Division: Keighley
Place of Abode: Dwelling House, 441 Heys Gardens
Reference Number: KEI:1/4

West Yorkshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1840-1962 about Hannah Barrett
Name: Hannah Barrett
Year: 1891
Country: England
County: West Yorkshire
Parliamentary Division: Holmfirth
Place of Abode: Padonaron
Reference Number: HOL:2/2

1891 England Census about Hannah Barret

1891 England Census about Hannah Barret
Name: Hannah Barret [Hannah Bradbury]
Age: 61
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Darton
Ecclesiastical parish: Darton
Town: Mapplewell
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 188 Spun Garden, Mapplewell, Darton, Yorkshire, England
Condition as to marriage: Widow (even though her husband John Barrett did not die until 1894 in Idaho, USA)
Employment status:
Registration district: Barnsley
Sub-registration district: Darton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 3768
Folio: 75
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age Relationship in the House
Hannah Barret 61 Head
John Barret 37 Son, listed as a Coal Miner
David Barret 22 Son, listed as a Coal Miner

West Yorkshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1840-1962 about Hannah Barrett
Name: Hannah Barrett
Year: 1892
Country: England
County: West Yorkshire
Parliamentary Division: Keighley
Place of Abode: Sutton mill
Reference Number: KEI:2/2

Marriage Record of Charles Hall and Hannah Barrett

Marriage of Charles Hall and Hannah Barrett
Date of Marriage: 3 September 1892
Place: Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Groom: Charles Hall, age 50, widower, coal miner, who is living at Crigglestone village, civil parish Wakefield, in West Yorkshire, England at the time of the marriage. Grooms fathers name of profession Charles Hall (deceased) was a General Labourer.
Bride: Hannah Barrett, age 58, widow, no profession shown, who is living at Crigglestone village, civil parish Wakefield, in West Yorkshire, England at the time of the marriage. Bride’s fathers name and profession John Lees (deceased) Engine Tenter
What I find interesting is Hannah is listed as a Widow, but John Barrett, her husband, and my 2nd great-grandfather did not die until he was killed in a logging accident in Idaho, USA in 1894. There was not record or family history told of a divorce. In the mid 1880’s her husband John Barrett and their two older sons Thomas and Edward, and their now married families moved to USA, while Hannah and her children she had before she married John and Hannah and John’s two youngest sons John William and David stayed in England. As far as we know there was no more contact between the England and USA Barrett families, but no divorce.

1901 England Census about Hannah Hall

1901 England Census about Hannah Hall
Name: Hannah Hall
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Charles Hall
Birth Place: Hurst, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Kexborough
Ecclesiastical parish: Darton All Saints
Town: Kexborough and Swithen Haigh
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 112 Dious Yard, Kexborough, Yorkshire, England
Condition as to marriage: married to Charles Hall
Employment status:
Registration district: Wortley
Sub-registration district: Cawthorne
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 4326
Folio: 13
Page Number: 17
Household schedule number: 112
Household Members:
Name Age Relationship Job
Charles Hall 58 Head, Husband Colling Labour below Ground Worker
Hannah Hall 68 wife

West Yorkshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1840-1962 about Hannah Hall
Name: Hannah Hall
Year: 1910
Country: England
County: West Yorkshire
Parliamentary Division: Holmfirth
Place of Abode: Town end, Shelley
Reference Number: HOL:9/1; NORM:9/1

West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985 about Hannah Hall

West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985 about Hannah Hall
Name: Hannah Hall
Birth Year: abt 1829
Parish: Darton, All Saints
Burial Date: 24 May 1913
Burial Age: 84
Abode: Darton Road, Kexborough, Yorkshire, England
Ceremony was performed by: Victor W.P. Kingston
Buried at All Saints, Darton Cemetery

Hannah Bradbury

Another problem I have is the name Hannah Bradbury and her mother’s name Sarah Bradbury were both names that show up a lot in the area during that time period, and without knowing what their middle names were it makes it difficult to know if on some of the public records they may have used their full name or just their middle name.

I have checked on websites like “Find a Grave” and not had any luck finding any of this families graves.

I have written the churches in the area but have not got any other leads as to information on any of the Bradbury family

I am unsure what other means is out there that I could use to find birth, death or burial records, or any other records that would fill in the blanks to so many of the questions I have. I can not afford to hire a professional so any help, advice, leads that I can follow from any of my blog readers I would be grateful for.

What is in a Name?

I have early memories of my father telling me how important it was how I conducted myself in life, not only for my own sake, but also for the honor of our family name. All those who came before me and their sacrifices gave me such a great family heritage and one I could be proud of. It was my responsibility to live in a way that my descendants would be proud of their family name. I spent the first twenty years of my life with my maiden surname “Danner”. For the next twenty years my surname was “Liggett”. Since 2000, I have had the surname of my sweet and “vary lovable” husband, Danny “Loveless”. With each of my surnames, I have tried to follow my father’s advice and live my life in a way that would bring honor to that family name. So what is the meaning and origin of my three family names that I have had?
Danner : Name Meaning German: topographic name for someone who lived in or by a forest, from Middle Low German dan, Middle High German tan ‘pine’, ‘forest’ + the suffix -er denoting an inhabitant. Danner Family Origin: Germany, Württemberg, Switzerland, Baden, Bavaria, and Preussen.”
As I wrote in some of my other blogs, my paternal 6th Great grandfather, Michael Danner was one of two sole survivors of his family who were all killed off during the wars that were going on in the area of Switzerland where the family lived. Their original family surname was “Tanner” and somewhere between the wars and being pushed to the German area and coming to America they change their family surname to “Danner”. So I wanted to learn more about the meaning and origin of the “Tanner” family name.
Tanner: Name Meaning English and Dutch: occupational name for a tanner of skins. Swiss and German: habitational name for someone from any of several places called Tanne (in the Harz Mountains and Silesia) or Tann (southern Germany). Tanner Family Origin: England, Germany, Ireland, Switzerland, Great Britain, and France.”
Liggett: Name Meaning English (now found mainly in northern Ireland): topographic name from Middle English lidyate ‘gate in a fence between plowed land and meadow’ (Old English hlid-geat ‘swing-gate’), or a habituation name from one of the places named with this word, as for example Lidgate in Suffolk or Lydiate in Lancashire. Liggett Family Origin: Ireland, Great Britain, England, Thonigstutter, Sweden, and Denmark.”
Loveless: Name Meaning nickname from Middle English loveles ‘loveless’, ‘without love’, probably in the sense ‘fancy free’. Some early examples, such as Richard Lovelas (Kent 1344), may have as their second element Middle English las(se) ‘girl’, ‘maiden’. Loveless Family Origin: England, Great Britain, Ireland, and Germany. The name was originally spelled LoveLaz, a French word said to denote work as a secretary, clerk or scribe. Because education even in the forecourt and registry officials was rare, the spelling often varied even from brother, to brother. Today, the Lovelaces, the Lovelesses or Lovelys are all members of the same family. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Edith Luvelece, which was dated 1243, who was a witness at the Somerset Assize Court, Taunton, during the reign of King Henry 111, known as ‘The Frenchman’, 1216 – 1272. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to “develop” often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling. ”
I will admit that with each name I have had my share of being teased by some over my surname. I found that there are a many opinions in this world as there are people of all forms of diversity. Since most of the teasing was just friendly jousting I just smile and laugh with whoever is doing the teasing. After all I have done my share of teasing others over their family surnames. Life is meant to enjoy and having a little laugh or two over teasing of our names is all fun and games.
Another one of my favorite pass times is American NFL football. Since the early 1970’s I have been an avid devoted Washington “Redskin” fan. Why, you might ask? It’s a simple answer for me. We lived in northern Virginia at the time, I was getting to the age where I understood the game and the Redskin’s was the local team and their games was shown in that area on TV the most. It also helped that my mother was passionate about the Redskins, and well for me a young teenage girl it also meant I had to like the team colors, and their logo on their helmets. To me it’s all fun and games to celebrate the Championship years, and still cheer and hope for improvement during the losing years. Yet, in the scheme of life there are also important issues I always remind myself of, like it’s only a game and nothing more. I realize for the team owners, players, and the many others who make an income for running their individual teams, it more than a game, it is the means to which they provide for their families. Yet, as I watch both sides of this Washington Redskins name controversy, I am amazed that it’s taken on such importance. The fact that the US President and Senators all feel it to be an important enough issue to take their time, at our tax payer’s expense to deal with this issue is absurd. They have set aside the more pressing issues like our economy, our education system, our VA problems, and many other issues that really do have an effect on the kind of quality of life we will have. For them to put the focus on and take up our legal court room times to force the owner to have to change the team name that has been the team name since February 13, 1937 to me is embarrassing for them…
Have we become a people who if we can find anything offensive about anything, we can take up tax payer funded and time to go to court to force private citizens and force them to change the name of their private business? The family heritage I am blessed to have that comes from my forefathers who were some that founded our country had a constitution that gives ALL our citizens freedom that are not offered in many other countries. I know that for my 6th great-grandfather, whose whole family died fighting for freedom of religion and freedom of speech, and him coming to America was a dream that came out of much sacrifice. Our constitution was set up to protect us as individual citizens from a government taking over every part of our personal life. So how come we as individual citizens are allowing our government to spend precious time and our funds on matter as unimportant as the name of a private professional football team? Yet at the same time, we do not find those same government officials held personally accountable when they so openly and repeatedly fail to do the very jobs they were elected to do? Just to name a few examples I can think off the top of my head, ATF gunwalking scandal, 2012 Benghazi cover up, stimulus package, VA problems, the IRS targeting, the NSA tapping, and the list goes on and on. It’s disheartening to me to think what important issues are being neglected as we make a name of a football team our main media attention.
I listen, read and research both side of this silly Washington Redskins name controversy. Here are the facts as I know them. The team originated as the Boston Braves, based in Boston, Massachusetts, in 1932. At the time the team played in Braves Field, home of the Boston Braves baseball team. The following year the club moved to Fenway Park, home of the Boston Red Sox, whereupon owners changed the team’s name to the Boston Redskins. In newspaper articles it is said “the name of the team had nothing to do with American Indians, but rather a marketing plan to have the town’s baseball and football teams have the same name. Once the team moved their playing field they chose a name as close to the baseball Red Sox name as they could and still be able to save money and not have to come up with a new team logo. Nothing was meant to be offensive, just a name to fit in with the Marketing of the town they were playing at. So, 80 years later some now find the Redskin name offensive to our Native Americans even in light of the facts what the real reason for the team name was, or the facts of the last 80 years of league history. A few now in our strong-arm government feel they have the legal right to bully and force their will on a private citizen and the Redskins culture that has developed over the last 80 plus years. Are we to forget the billions of dollars of fan memorabilia that has been sold over the last 80 years? Are we to forget the millions of fans who come from several family generations of the “Redskin Nation” that we are proud of? Once we allow our government to force one private business to change to the will of a small percentage, will government stop there, or have we now opened the door to allowing the government to go after anyone or anything that is found to be offensive? Is this not how the Nazi’s starting to gain their power hold on their country? Check your history books friends, are we going to sit by as it is repeating itself.
From my youth I have been told to take pride in my family name. To learn from those forefathers who carried that name, and always carry on a sense of honor to those who will come after me. I do feel how and why a name that was started does matter over time. More importantly it is how the legacy grows on with each generation. For some of us, our family names will change, like females who will marry and take on the name of their husbands, yet we can all live in a way that will honor all the names we will have in our life time.
A name is only a name, until you place a legacy of meaning, history and honor with it, then it becomes a heritage to protect and carry on. I am proud of the family history I have been able to research and learn about so far. I am sure it’s a pride that will grow within me and my family as I research and learn more about my other family members. This includes those that I know nothing about at this time, but hope to one day. I feel I am part of the Redskin nation and Family since the early 1970’s. I would prefer that our ever-increasing in power government stay out of the private business of our private citizens life’s… As a nation we must allow the Redskin Legacy of the last 80 years to continue on, for all the reasons that I wrote above. Not just the future of the Redskins and their name is all that is reflected here, but also the direction that our country is headed in… I hope we can one day be at a place in time where everyone can stop being offended by our differences and somehow just allow life to be about more than just a name, but rather about all the history and legacy that has developed into the whole package that comes with the name.

Difference between Memorial Day and Veterans Day

I come from a family with a rich Military legacy. However,I always thought that Memorial Day was to honor ALL of our family who had died. I thought it was on Veterans Day that we honored and remembered all those who served in the Military, living and dead. So I did what I seemed to do now when I have a question… I went online and “Goggled” it so I could learn what the answers are. Here is what I found online to answer my question.
There is a distinct difference between Memorial Day and Veterans Day. This is the difference between the two days according to the VA website.
“Many people confuse Memorial Day and Veterans Day. Memorial Day is a day for remembering and honoring military personnel who died in the service of their country, particularly those who died in battle or as a result of wounds sustained in battle.”
While those who died are also remembered, Veterans Day is the day set aside to thank and honor all those who served honorably in the military – in wartime or peacetime. In fact, Veterans Day is largely intended to thank LIVING veterans for their service, to acknowledge that their contributions to our national security are appreciated, and to underscore the fact that all those who served, not only those who died, have sacrificed and done their duty.
To ensure the sacrifices of America’s fallen are never forgotten, in December 2000, the U.S. Congress passed and the president signed into law “The National Moment of Remembrance Act,”. The National Moment of Remembrance encourages all Americans to pause wherever they are at 3 p.m. local time on Memorial Day for a minute of silence to remember and honor those who have died in service to the nation. As Moment of Remembrance founder Carmella LaSpada stated: “It’s a way we can all help put the memorial back in Memorial Day.”

So, as I made the rounds through ten different cemeteries this year placing flowers on all my family members graves, I asked myself, why do we put flowers on all our family members’ graves during Memorial Day, and not just our Military family members? After all, unless our family members died in service to our country, Memorial Day is not about them. While it is always appropriate to honor our loved ones, and remember them and even visit their final resting places, this is not the point of Memorial Day.
SO, after some careful thought here is the reason why I feel that my family places flowers on ALL our family graves. We are carrying on the “Traditions of Our Fathers”. It’s not to take away from honoring our Military ancestors and the sacrifices they made in serving our country, but rather to extend our honoring to all our family members, whether they served in the military or civilian life, the family legacy we enjoy now is because of each ancestors mark in life for the time period they lived.
I say “Thank-You” to all my ancestors for allowing things to unfold the way they did in their lives that allows me to enjoy the many blessing I have in my life, and that gives me a wonderful family legacy to pass on to my children and grandchildren.
But, to stay in line with the “Traditional Meaning of Memorial Day”, I want to focus the rest of my May 2014 blogs on my Military ancestors and tell some of their stories. I hope some of the rest of you will also share some of your family Military ancestor stories too.

I hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable Memorial Weekend 2014.

Once a Marine .... Always a Marine

Once a Marine …. Always a Marine

A Marine Paratrooper

A Marine Paratrooper

Even going on 84 years old, My Father looks handsome in his Marine Dress Uniform.

Even going on 84 years old, My Father looks handsome in his Marine Dress Uniform.

We were proud parents as we attended Donald's Boot Camp Graduation Aug 2007

We were proud parents as we attended Donald’s Boot Camp Graduation Aug 2007

While station in Japan, our son Donald received an award for when he came back to his ship    on Friday night, there was a fire on the ship, and his quick actions was able to get the fire put out quickly and prevent major damage. Yes, we are proud Navy Parents.

While station in Japan, our son Donald received an award for when he came back to his ship on Friday night, there was a fire on the ship, and his quick actions was able to get the fire put out quickly and prevent major damage. Yes, we are proud Navy Parents.

My daughter, Kristine, did not take many photo of her in her Air Force uniform, but I want to make she she know we are proud parents of her as well for the years she served Active Duty Air Force.

My daughter, Kristine, did not take many photo of her in her Air Force uniform, but I want to make sure she know we are proud parents of her as well for the years she served Active Duty Air Force.

What Famous Family Members Does Your Family Have

Meriwether Lewis (1774 – 1809) is my 9th great grand-uncle.

Zachary Lewis (1702 – 1765) father of Meriwether Lewis

Mary Lewis (1726 – 1755) daughter of Zachary Lewis

John “Black John” Nickell (1738 – 1807) son of Mary Lewis

Mary Polly Nickel (1774 – 1847) daughter of John “Black John” Nickell

Margaret “Peggy” Cravens (1792 – 1831) daughter of Mary Polly Nickel

Mary Jane Hite (1816 – 1903) daughter of Margaret “Peggy” Cravens

Bernard S. Adam (1845 – ) son of Mary Jane Hite

Eliza Ann Adams (1821 – 1864) daughter of Bernard S. Adam

John Barrett (twin) (1837 – 1894) son of Eliza Ann Adams

Edward Barrett (1862 – 1954) son of John Barrett (twin)

Ellen Barrett (1905 – 1999) daughter of Edward Barrett

Donald Barrett Danner son of Ellen Barrett

Karen Louise Danner Loveless, I am the daughter of Donald Barrett Danner

2nd Governor of Louisiana Territory In office March 3, 1807 – October 11, 1809 Appointed by	Thomas Jefferson Preceded by	James Wilkinson Succeeded by	Benjamin Howard Personal details Born	August 18, 1774 Ivy, Colony of Virginia Died	October 11, 1809 (aged 35) Hohenwald, Tennessee, U.S. Spouse(s)	none Alma mater	Liberty Hall (Washington and Lee University), 1793 Occupation	Explorer, soldier, politician

2nd Governor of Louisiana Territory
In office
March 3, 1807 – October 11, 1809
Appointed by Thomas Jefferson
Preceded by James Wilkinson
Succeeded by Benjamin Howard
Personal details
Born August 18, 1774
Ivy, Colony of Virginia
Died October 11, 1809 (aged 35)
Hohenwald, Tennessee, U.S.
Spouse(s) none
Alma mater Liberty Hall (Washington and Lee University), 1793
Occupation Explorer, soldier, politician

The Lewis and Clark Expedition, also known as the Corps of Discovery Expedition, was the first American expedition to cross what is now the western portion of the United States, departing in May, 1804 from St. Louis on the Mississippi River, making their way westward through the continental divide to the Pacific coast.
The expedition was commissioned by President Thomas Jefferson shortly after the Louisiana Purchase in 1803, consisting of a select group of U.S. Army volunteers under the command of Captain Meriwether Lewis and his close friend Second Lieutenant William Clark. Their perilous journey lasted from May 1804 to September 1806. The primary objective was to explore and map the newly acquired territory, find a practical route across the Western half of the continent, and establish an American presence in this territory before Britain and other European powers tried to claim it.

I know as a child I remember my grandmother telling us we was related to Meriwether Lewis, but I was never sure how we tried into him, so when I found out how, it was if I discovered a long-lost family member. I know there are other famous family members on all the family lines, that as we discover them in our family it gives us a sense of pride to know we are related to those who have made a mark in history.

So what famous family members do you have in your family?

My Mother ~ Della Rae Smith Danner ~ A Life of Unconditional Love and Service

My Mother

My mother’s life began in her parents’ home on a cold winter night on January 23, 1932. Her parents, Hyrum Eldoras and Lema Lucille Critchfield Smith gave her the name of Della Rae Smith. She spent her childhood and youth living in a small Southern Idaho town called Albion. She had an older brother Merl an older sister Edna and a younger brother Jerry. Her father was a carpenter, yet during the ‘Depression Years’, he did whatever jobs he could find. Her mother was a natural cook that could make everything she cooked taste like a bit of Heaven.

The Smith Family

The Smith Family

Mom's Band Days

Mom the Cheerleader

My mom was your average teenage girl of the 1940’s. She played the trumpet in her school band, was a cheerleader and was a natural at playing sports. She loved to be involved in anything and everything that was fun. Mom had a smile and laugh that made anyone around her instantly fall in love with her. I was told that my father Donald Barrett Danner, told my mother even before they had started kindergarten he was going to marry her, a promise he kept 15 years later on December 2, 1950. By the end of 1951 my father’s Marine Corp career had them living in Barstow, California and the proud parents of my oldest brother Donald Kay. Over the next 15 years my parents welcomed to their family my other brother Fred, and my sisters Joann, Theresa, and my baby sister Kathy. I came into the family between my sisters Theresa and Kathy.

Mr & Mrs. Donald B Danner

In 1967 my father took a career opportunity that moved our family from Southern California to the Island of Okinawa which is south of the mainland of Japan. We would spend the next six and half years living there. My father’s job had him often traveling back and forth between Okinawa and Vietnam leaving my mother to take on most of the raising of their six children and working her full time job at the base credit union. During this time period my three oldest siblings graduated from high school, and all of us children were involved in many different areas that interested us, from Sports, to being in the school plays, in choirs, and learning to play different musical instruments. My mother supported each one of us and was our # 1 cheerleader. Her father passed away in 1970 and she went home for several months to help her mother and siblings to get his affairs in order. Whatever life sent our family’s way, my mother would tackle it, giving it her all and doing her best at each task she needed to deal with.
My parents always had an “Open Door” policy in our home. There were days, after mom had already put in a full 8 hour shift at her job, she would come home to get a call from my dad saying another group of young Marines or Sailors had come in and was on their layover going to the Vietnam war. Then he wanted to know if he could bring some of those who had nowhere else to hang out that night to our home for dinner. We were not rich in the sense of “Money” but when it came to love, and showing compassion for our fellowman my mother made sure our home was overflowing with this important kind of wealth. We always knew that anyone who needed a place to rest or just a place and family to enjoy that our mother would always have a place for them to come. This also included any stray dog or cat that my sister Theresa was famous for somehow finding and bringing home. Life was never dull at our childhood home.

Danner Family

Mom had no problem getting right in the middle of whatever silly, crazy things us kids or our dad would want to do. I remember one night when we had some young Marine’s over and my older brother, Don’s band was practicing for one of their upcoming events, they talked mom into being the lead singer for the song “Gloria”. She was rocking out and hamming it up as she sang to make us all laugh. Then to our surprise we looked to see standing at the front door, which was always open with just the screen door to keep the bugs out, some men from the church who had come to talk with my father. We all laughed so hard over how funny the expression on the men’s faces were over seeing our normally shy mother being so silly and outgoing.
“A mother’s love for her child is like nothing else in the world. It knows no law, no pity. She dares all things and crushes down remorselessly all that stands in her child’s path.”
I don’t know who said this, but it is so true when it comes to my mother. She was a conservative, quiet lady in public. She was 5 feet tall and most of her life she never weighed much over 100 pounds. She was loyal, kind, hardworking, and a talented lady. She was someone you wanted on your side, but Lord help the person who was foolish enough to mess with one of her family members. When mom released her “Mama Bear” hold on, you were in for a wild ride, and trust me Mom always achieved whatever her goal was when she was in the “Mama Bear”mode.
I was a sickly child who was born with no immune system, so I spent pretty much the first years of my life in the hospital. This had to have been so difficult for mom, to have four older children needing her attention at home and a baby girl who cried anytime she had to leave to go home. When I could manage to break out of my “Oxygen Tent” I would tackle her as she was walking down the hallway trying to leave to go home to her other children. I remember her sitting by my hospital bed reading to me for hours on end. She would hold my hand threw the plastic cover area that allowed her to hold my hand and sing me songs until I fell asleep. I still have and cherish the plastic toy lamb that she brought to me when I was in the hospital when I was three years old.

Moving to Okinawa 1967

Moving to Okinawa 1967

Mom would make holidays so special and something I looked forward to. It was not the big grand over the top things, it was the simple things that made her children know she loved us. An example was she would bake our birthday cakes with a quarter that was wrapped up in foil, and we each were excited as we received our piece of birthday cake. We ate our cake very careful to make sure we did not eat the quarter by mistake, and could not wait to see who would end up with the treasure of the quarter. Back then a quarter was a lot of money to us kids.
I remember before I started kindergarten, and all my siblings were in school, Mom would give me some small chore to do in the morning and then before lunch she would pay me a nickel, and take me to the local store in Hinkley
that was similar to our present day 7-11 stores. I could buy me a box of Cracker-Jacks and I would take it home and put it on the table. I would eat my lunch, and then take my nap. After nap time I could watch my favorite TV game show “Let’s Make a Deal” and eat my Cracker Jacks. For me, life just could not have been happier than those pre-school days of me, my mom, and my Cracker Jack snacks.
Mom loved to do crafts and make things to make our home feel cozier. While living in Okinawa my mom took classed to learn to make Japanese dolls, one of which I proudly displayed in my home in our music room. Mom learned to do Japanese embroidering and made many beautiful pictures, which I believe each of her family members received one. I ended up with the photo of a tiger coming out of the forest that I love, every time I look at it I think back to those childhood days as I sat and watched mom working on her needle craft art work. I am a left hander, making it difficult for everyone to try to teach me any crafts. My mom was very patient as she would sit directly in front of me and teach me how to crochets. It took me forever to learn how to do it, but mom never gave up on me. I remember her and me working to crochet flower roses or carnations and put them in nice vase displays so we could sell them at our church auctions to help raise money for needy causes. There were all kinds of cute crochet patterns my mom taught me to make. I would make the items and sell them and use the funds I earned to buy items like china and silverware for my “Hope” chest, so when I got married I would be ready to be the kind of mother my mom was.
I remember after we moved from Okinawa to Virginia in 1973, I had one of my lungs collapse and had pneumonia. I was deathly ill for several months. Mom made me a cot bed right by her side of my parent’s bed. She would get up every hour to make sure I at least got one tablespoon of water drank every hour of the day. Whatever one of her children’s needs were, mom would move heaven and earth to make it happen.

Mom went with me when our first child, Kristine was bore, because my husband was in Tech School in Texas at the time with his Air Force job.

Mom went with me when our first child, Kristine was bore, because my husband was in Tech School in Texas at the time with his Air Force job.

Fall 1995, Pomona Hospital California.

Fall 1995, Pomona Hospital California.

Sometime in mom’s late 40’s or early 50’s she was diagnose with Rheumatoid arthritis, Sjögren’s syndrome, and Lupus. In spite of the fact that we could tell she was in lots of pain all the time, mom would not complain or whine about her illnesses. She did what she could to control her illness but she did not let her illness control her. Mom stayed as active as she could and she loved to play her organ. Mom and dad moved back to their childhood town of Albion, Idaho when they retired. She loved it whenever anyone of her 19 grandchildren would come for a visit. She made sure to give them some money so they could ride their bikes to the local store and buy some ‘penny’ candy.
In the fall of 1995 my mother suffered a Brain Aneurysm while in California visiting her family and dealing with some legal matters with a case our family was involved in at that time. Luckily my aunt only lived a few blocks from the hospital and they were able to get her there fast. The doctor told my father that mom had died on the operating table a few times, but they had been able to bring her back. Despite the fact we were lucky she had survive this ordeal the family needed to prepare ourselves that mom would most likely be in a weaker state and might not be able to talk or know who we were. I lived in Texas at the time, my brother Fred was living in England, Kathy was in Idaho, Joann and Don lived in Utah, and Theresa lived in San Diego. We all went to Pomona California to spend some time with mom while she was in the hospital. We did not know it at that time, but it would be the last time our whole family would get to spend time together while all of us was still alive. Mom’s recovery at that hospital took many months. Yet the miracles we saw unfold during that time brought us closer together as a family.
While my mother was fighting for her life on the operating table in Southern California, her younger brother Jerry died in Idaho. When we found out about Jerry’s death we decided as a family that it was best not to tell mom because it would upset her too much, and in her weakened condition we did not want to chance losing mom too. Mom came out of her unconscious state a few days after her surgery. To all of our surprise mom was able to talk, and she knew who everyone was, except for me. For some reason even though she knew who her mother was, and even if both grandma and I were in the room at the same time, she still would say I was her mother too. It took mom some time before she was able to know who I was, but after what she been through, I felt God had been kind to our family to allow us to have mom with us still. Mom was not the same as before the Aneurysm, she was more childlike, and only talked about simple matters. A few days after moms operation, we were all sitting around her hospital room, and she started to tell us about what happened when she had died. She said in a matter of fact way, as if this was something that happens to everyone, Mom said, “Yeah, I died, and dad and Jerry (the brother who had just died) was there to meet me. They said they could not stay and that I had to go back to life, because I had some unfinished stuff to do with my family there. I said to dad I do not understand dad, why does Jerry get to stay, I want to stay too. Dad told me it’s not my turn and I needed to go back, but I would be with them soon enough.” We all looked at each other, and said “OK which one told mom about Jerry”. Before anyone of us could answer, mom said, “None of you, I just know because I got to say goodbye to him when I was with him and dad in Heaven.” I had heard of other “after death” experiences but had never know anyone personally until my mother. With me being the “Doubting Thomas” kind of person that would not normally have believed my mother’s “After Death” story, I became a firm believer that day of her “After Death” story.
We were blessed to have our mother for another three years. Many good things happened in those last three years. We all learned not to take life for granted, or our mom. As teenagers, we thought she was a mean, moody, controlling mother, as most teenagers feel about their parents during those years. As young adults with children of our own, we had learned how difficult being a parent really is. We stopped judging mom for every perceived fault she had, and started to see her for the strong, wise, woman she always was. Life had dealt her some difficult hands, and yet she could handle them far better than any of us. While mom was firm on her parenting skills, she always loved each of us unconditionally and she never gave up on us, when so many others had. When a stroke finally claimed mom’s life in 1998, she had lived her life better than most. It has been almost 16 years since moms death, yet her influence is felt daily by all of us who were blessed to know and love her. Each member in her family is stronger, and wiser, and able to love and give, because we have a mother that was not afraid to live life to the fullest, and give her all to those she loved.
To all the unselfish moms out there who traded eyeliner for dark circles, salon haircuts for ponytails, long baths for quick showers, late nights for early mornings, designer bags for diaper bags, and wouldn’t change a thing. Happy Mother’s Day!

4 Generations of Strong Ladies
To My Mother who is now in Heaven with my brother Fred, I say Thank you mom for everything.
I love you, I honor you, and I miss you!

Michael Danner Is My Paternal 6th great grandfather

Michael Danner
Is my Paternal 6th great grandfather
Birth 7 May 1696 in Grand Duchy Baden, Mannheim, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany
Death 29 May 1782 in Hanover, York, Pennsylvania, United States

1. Family Data Collection – Births about Michael Tanner Danner
• Source Information: Edmund West, comp.. Family Data Collection – Births [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Operations Inc., 2001.
Name: Michael Tanner Danner
Father: Hans Danner
Birth Date: 1701
City: Wiesloch

2. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 about Michael Danner
• Source Citation: Source number: 31.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: PJM.
• Source Information: Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Operations Inc., 2004.
• Name: Michael Danner
Gender: Male
• Birth Place: Ba
• Birth Year: 1696
• Spouse Name: Anna Bend
• Birth Place: Ba

3. Web: Pennsylvania, Find A Grave Index, 1682-2012 about Michael Danner
• Source Information: Web: Pennsylvania, Find A Grave Index, 1682-2012 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Operations, Inc., 2012.
• Original data: Find A Grave. Find A Grave. accessed 28 January 2013.
• Name: Michael Danner
Birth Date: 1696
• Age at Death: 85
• Death Date: 1781
• Burial Place: York County, Pennsylvania, USA
• URL:

4. U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about Michael Danner
• Source Information: U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Operations, Inc, 2010.
• Original data: Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2012.
• Name: Michael Danner
Arrival Year: 1727
Arrival Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Source Publication Code: 7820
Primary Immigrant: Danner, Michael
Annotation: An index by Marvin V. Koger, Index to the Names of 30,000 Immigrants…Supplementing the Rupp, Ship Load Volume, 1935, 232p is inferior to Wecken’s index in the third edition (above). Page 449 contains “Names of the First Palatines in North Carolina, as
Source Bibliography: RUPP, ISRAEL DANIEL. A Collection of Upwards of Thirty Thousand Names of German, Swiss, Dutch, French and Other Immigrants in Pennsylvania from 1727 to 1776, with a Statement of the Names of Ships, Whence They Sailed, and the Date of Their Arrival at Philadelphia, Chronologically Arranged, Together with the Necessary Historical and Other Notes, also, an Appendix Containing Lists of More Than One Thousand German and French Names in New York prior to 1712. Leipzig [Germany]:
Page: 51

5. Pennsylvania, Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1772-1890 about Michael Danner
• Source Information: Pennsylvania, Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1772-1890 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Operations Inc., 1999.
• Original data: Jackson, Ronald V., Accelerated Indexing Systems, comp Pennsylvania Census, 1772-1890. Compiled and digitized by Mr. Jackson and AIS from microfilmed schedules of the U.S. Federal Decennial Census, territorial/state censuses, and/or census substitutes.
• Name: Michael Danner
State: PA
County: Philadelphia County
Township: Philadelphia
Year: 1742
Database: PA Early Census Index

6. York County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1749-1819 about Michael Danner
• Source Information: Lineages, Inc., comp, York County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1749-1819 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2000.
• Original data: York County Wills. Originals housed at the York County Archives.
• Name: Michael Danner
Description: Executor
• Date: 2 Nov 1762
• Prove Date: 12 Nov 1762
• Remarks: Honsicker, Jacob. Nov. 2, 1762. Executors: Catharine Honsicker and Michael Danner. Manheim Township. Wife: Catharine Hunsicker.

7. York County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1749-1819 about Michael Danner
• Source Information: Lineages, Inc., comp, York County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1749-1819 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2000.
• Original data: York County Wills. Originals housed at the York County Archives.
• Name: Michael Danner
Description: Executor
• Date: 30 Jun 1755
• Prove Date: 22 Aug 1755
• Remarks: Welty, Peter. Jun. 30, 1755. Executors: Michael Danner and John Welty. Manheim Township. Wife: Catharine Welty. Children: John and Abraham.

8. Find A Grave Memorial# 18913365 – Danner/Tanner, Michael 1696-1781
• Birth: 1696
• Death: 1781
• Michael and family left Hanover, Germany in 1715 and first settled near Germantown.
Later, in 1727 he moved to the Pequea Settlement of Lancaster County according to article in “Brethren Roots and Branches”, Vol 3, Dec1981. Some confusion exists because the “Mennonite Encyclopedia” refers to Michael Danner as “an early member of the Mellinger Mennonite congregation of Lancaster County” and suggests he crossed the river ( Susquehanna) by 1719. In 1728, the Indians appealed to Governor Gordon to have certain settlers removed from the lands west of the Susquehanna River. Among them was Michael Danner. He was considered an intruder on lands which the Indians had not yet released to the white settlers. The authorities duly removed them. Refer to
“History of York County, PA” by Rupp, pg. 347.
In 1732, Samuel Blunston, land agent for the Penn’s, wrote to the Governor about some men arrested by associates of Col. Thomas Cresaps of Maryland and taken to Annapolis. Included was Michael Danner. Although Gov. Samuel Ogle of Maryland later argued that the German settlers west of the Susquehanna had not been granted patents, at least 50 of these families had agreed to claim land under Maryland jurisdiction by 1736. A letter signed by 50 Germans renouncing their Maryland affiliation dated August 11, 1736 infers this. (Michael Tanner et al). See Archives of Maryland 28:100-101. Until 1736, most of the Germans who crossed the Susquehanna River were only too willing to accept Maryland jurisdiction. In 1732, the tax collector reported at least 400 persons living west of the river who paid taxes to Lancaster County (History of Pa, W.H. Eagle, 1876, pg.1169).
On 17 Sep 1734, Michael Danner received from Samuel Blunston, land agent of the Penn’s in Columbia, PA, a license to settle 200 acres on the west side if the Susquehanna River about six miles southwest of John Hendricks ( Quaker of Wrightsville). This would be somewhere near Mt. Pisgah or Canadochly Church in what later became Lowe Windsor Twp.
In 1736, Michael Danner apparently was arrested a second time by Maryland authorities. Records of the Sheriff of Anna Arundel County of 4 Jan 1736 mention taking prisoner, Michael Tanner of Baltimore County, for having driven some fellows from his home in Pennsylvania.
In August 1739 he was one of the six Commissioners named to lay out a road from Wrightsville to the home of Adam Forney at Digges Choice and later Hanover. The road extended by way of Kitzmiller’s Mill to the Province line and was known as “Monocacy Road”. Some claim that originally the family was Mennonite, but Gleim thought not.
Michael Danner is listed as the first leader of the German Baptists (Dunkard’s) west of the Susquehanna. In 1770, Danner is listed as a member of the Conewago Congregation (Black Rock Church of the Brethren).
At one time, Michael Danner owned about 290 acres of land in the vicinity of Porter’s Siding in Heidelberg Twp. The Tax Lists of Hanover and Heidelberg Twp. for 1778-80 include Michael Danner. Heidelberg Twp. created in 1750 from northern portion of Manheim Twp.
“Was Michael Danner a Mennonite?” is a six page article in the Dec 1981 Brethren Roots and Branches, quarterly publication of the Brethren Genealogists of Southern PA, 2490 Middle St., York, PA 17404. Article suggests that he was a German Baptist with Mennonite neighbors. The article reports that he was an aggressive, enterprising German who was exceptional both in character and in his abilities. He spoke both English and German. The book, History and Families of the Black Rock Church of the Brethren, by Elmer Q. Gleim has numerous references to him and indicates he was of the Brethren faith.
An Act of August, 1749, in the Provincial Council of Philadelphia named six men “to view and lay off a new County (York). Danner was among them. In 1755 he was appointed as one of “His Majesty’s Justices of the Peace”, (History of York County, Prowell).
Application of Henry Danner filed in Orphans Court, York County during May 1782 for probate of his father’s estate lists
• His widow, Anna Catharina Marie Bend Danner
• His children:
• Jacob Danner 1727 – 1814 ( my 5th Great Grandfather)
• Catharine Danner 1728 – 1790
• Anna Danner 1730 – 1804
• Johann George Danner 1730 – 1765
• Michael Danner 1734 – 1782
• Philip Danner 1735 – 1829
• Elizabeth Danner 1736 – 1798
• Heinrich Danner 1742 – 1814
• Maria Danner 1744 – 1816
(Probate Book F-15).
In 1728 settled at Cabin Creek mouth on Susquehanna River he got into a dispute over land. When arrested by Maryland civil authorities placed in prison in Annapolis. After his release became permanent settler of York County ( PA Ger. Soc. Vol. 24 & 25, pg. 57) Tanner (Danner), with a number of Mennonites from Lancaster Co. settled in the rich farming lands of the Conewago Valley near “Digg’s Choice” on the banks of the Codorus,
Heidelberg Twp. in 1738. This colony of Mennonites was the nucleus of Bair’s Hanover Church. Names of other settlers here were: Hershey, Brubaker, Bair (Bare), Kauffman, Frantz, Shank, Garber, Bechtel, Bauman, Thoman, Rudisill).
Danner spoke both German and English. Appointed County Commissioner in 1749 to help lay out York County. Bair’s Hanover was first Mennonite congregation in York County to erect a church (3.5 east of Hanover on Hanover- Spring Grove Road). First structure was of logs (1746). Peter Blasser was first known ordained Mennonite minister in the Michael Danner settlement. He had arrived in 1739 and had been a Mennonite prisoner from Trachselwald in Berne. Later his children settled near Stony-Man near Blue Ridge, VA. Adam Forney had settled there earlier (1730).
Burial: York Road Cemetery, Hanover, York County, Pennsylvania, USA
Created by: Leanne Keefer Bechdel
Record added: Apr 13, 2007

9. Little Conewago Congregation – 1770 of the German Baptist Brethren Church
• Little Conewago Congregation – 1770 of the German Baptist Brethren Church in York County, PA
Memberships listed as: Henry Tanner (Donner) and wife; Michael Tanner and wife.
Found on the internet 9/22/2009:
Bair Mennonite Meetinghouse (Spring Grove, Pennsylvania, USA)
The Bair Mennonite Meetinghouse (Mennonite Church) is located three miles (six km) east of Hanover, York County, Pennsylvania. On 14 May 1775 Michael Danner, Sr., of Hanover, a York County Commissioner when the county was laid out, obtained from the Penn heirs with preachers John Shenk and Jacob Keagy, deacons John Welty and James Miller, 12 acres for a meetinghouse, schoolhouse, and burying ground. Possibly the Lutherans and Reformed had an interest in the schoolhouse. The first meetinghouse was used until 1860, and the second house until 1908, when the house used in the 1950s was erected. It was a part of the Hostetter-Hanover circuit of the Lancaster Mennonite Conference of which Richard Danner was bishop in the 1950s. The circuit membership was 122.
Bair Mennonite Meetinghouse (Spring Grove, Pennsylvania)
Address: 6925 York Road, Spring Grove, Pa.
N 39° 49.066 W 076° 56.538
18S E 333760 N 4409336
Quick Description: Bair’s Mennonite Meeting House is located in Heidelberg Township, York County, Pennsylvania.
Location: Pennsylvania, United States

10. License to Settle
• Danner … received a license, Sept. 17, 1734, to settle “200 acres of land on the west side of the Susquehanna River…about six miles southwesterly from John Hendricks”. The license was granted by Samuel Blunston who promised a regular land grant as soon as the Indians would release their claims on the lands. Lord Baltimore issued warrants against settlers in the disputed lands (southern York Co.). In May 1736, Thomas Cresap and 300 militiamen came to the Susquehanna River to survey the lands from the Susquehanna River to the Codorus Creek. Cresap waited for more militiamen from Maryland to take prisoner all who lived between Wright’s Ferry and the Codorus Creek because they refused to acknowledge themselves as tenants of Lord Baltimore. When the MD militiamen began to seize settler’s property/goods, Danner represented the citizens and succeeded in having the militiamen withdraw for two weeks. The (York Co.) settlers appealed for protection from Pennsylvania. Gov. Ogle of MD was angry and offered 100 pounds for the arrest of each person who signed the petition. There is some evidence that Danner was taken twice to Maryland for “trespassing” in York Co.
In 1736, Michael Danner appeared before a Maryland court to repurchase the properties.
According to the Conewago settlement and tombstone records, the family of Michael and Anna Danner were:
• Jacob (1727-1799) married Elizabeth Boechtel, daughter of Samuel Boechtel of Manheim Twp. Jacob became the presiding elder of the Codorus Cong. and later moved to MD where he helped establish the Lingamore (Locust Grove) church.
• Catharine ( 1728 – 1790) married George Wehrly
• Anna (Dec 6, 1730-Jan 10, 1804) married Stefan Petry (1729-1793) Stefan and Anna are buried in the Chestnue Grove Ch Cem.
• Michael Jr. (1734 -1782) married Susanna Kehr whose family was Mennonite.
• Philip (1735 – 1829) married Markret (Margaret) Millheim, daughter of George Millheim of Manheim Twp.
• Elizabeth (Nov. 13, 1736-April 21, 1798) married Christian Bear (June 10, 1733-April 17, 1795)
• Heinrich (Feb 12, 1742-Feb 5, 1814) married Elizabeth Kehr (Sept 28, 1744-June 17, 1828) Heinrich was a minister in the Little Conewago church.
• Maria (Dec 24, 1744-Feb 18, 1816) twice married (1) Heinrich Hohf (d. Aug 9, 1783) and to (2) Daniel Utz.
Source: “The History and Families of the Black Rock Church of the Brethren 1738-1988″, Anniversary Volume, Elmer Q. Gleim
Online source:
11. Discoveries in York, PA October, 2007
• I went to York County Heritage Museum on Oct 09, 2007. Have many photocopies of articles, letters and other documents relating to Michael and his descendants.
Michael assisted in laying out the County of York, PA.
Michael surveyed the Monocacy Road.
Michael was named “King’s Commissioner of Highways” and was a very prominent man of his time.
Michael assisted in the survey of the Mason-Dixon Line (this line eventually became the state boundary between Pennsylvania and Maryland)
Michael and his sons Jacob and Heinrich were granted 6 acres for their church and cemetery by the sons of William Penn.
Michael and his wife Anna Bend are buried in Bair’s Meeting House Cemetery located on Rt 166 about 2 miles east of Hanover. A stone was placed a great time later by the church, honoring Michael and his wife, Anna. (Note: the stone bears the name: Susanna instead of Anna. Susanna was Michael’s daughter-in-law – wife of Heinrich)
• Source: charlischisler originally shared this to Charlena Danner Pedigree

12. General Notes:
• Michael came from Germany via Rotterdam on the James Goodwell, David Crockett, ship’s master. The 200 passengers and 53 families were listed as Palatines. They arrived in Philadelphia on Sep 27, 1727. He was a Swiss Mennonite and a member of the Bair Mennonite Meeting house in Hanover, York Co, Pennsylvania. He received the title of “King’s Commissioner of Highways for Pennsylvania in 1734. About 1760 when his son, Jacob led a group of settlers from York Co, PA to Frederick Co, MD, Michael and sons Jacob and Henry ended up platting/surveying the Monocacy Road down the west side of the Monocacy River (with the Blue Ridge Mountains back of it.) It became a main route of settlement from Lancaster Co., PA, down the river, across the Blue Ridge at Frederick to the Potomac River (north of Harper’s Ferry), on to Virginia, Tennessee and the Carolinas. This was called the Monocacy Trail. He also surveyed the York Road which was a very important route that linked York, PA to the Port of Baltimore. In 1770, he was listed as a prominent member to the Conewago German Baptist Brethren Church. (CL-514, 526) There is some indication that Michael also had a daughter named Mary Danner, as a John Kehr leaves a will in 1794 in York Co, PA that refers to his wife Mary and his loving brother in law, Henry Danner. (CL-526) 4 Michael married Anna BEND about 1726 in , , , Germany.
• Sources
1 Kelly, Mary, Email dated 2000 forwarded by Nathan Danner from Mary Kelly at
2 Danner, Nathan, Email dated 2000 from
3 FamilyTreeMaker Database at
4 Perry, Virginia, Email dated 2000 from

13. Bair’s Meeting House
• Bair’s Meeting House was a Mennonite meeting house located about 3 miles east of Hanover on the York Road. The land on which it was built was granted to Michael Danner, in trust for the Mennonite congregation, on August 8, 1774 by John and Thomas Penn, sons of William Penn.
Michael Danner was a prominent man of his day and, in 1749, was one of the commissioners appointed to lay off York County. The grant to Michael Danner was “in trust to and for the only proper use of the Mennonites, their heirs and successors forever”. For many years, the Mennonite services had been held in the homes of members. For the purpose of erecting a building, for a school and for religious worship, a tripartite indenture and agreement was made May 14, 1775, between Michael Danner, Sr., then of Hanover on the first part, John Shenck, of Manheim and Jacob Keagy of Heidelberg, ministers, of the Mennonites, John Welty and James Miller, both of Manheim (now Heidelberg), elders of the Mennonite congregation of the second part, and Adam Eichelberger of the third part, concerning the disposition of the land, which was named “Danner’s Repository”, and when granted adjoined lands of Michael Newman, Andrew Shenck and Adam Eichelberger, and contained twelve acres. It was agreed upon by the heads of the congregation, “to hold equally in common, and for the use of said congregation erect a schoolhouse and meetinghouse, and locate a place to bury the dead, and for the use of the German Lutherans and German Reformed Calvinists, who may join in erecting a schoolhouse thereon, and supporting a schoolmaster, and also for a place of burial for their dead.” They then released unto Adam Eichelberger the right of being a trustee for the Lutheran and Reformed congregations and for a school building, but “reserving and retaining for themselves entire use and their successors forever; a house of worship to be erected on some part of said land when said Mennonite congregation may see fit to erect one.”
• Source: History of York county Pennsylvania by John Gibson, 1886.
• Online source:

14. The Palatines:
• The Story of the Palatines: Introduction
This presentation was given at the Annual General Meeting of the UELAC in June, 2006 by Joan Lucas UE to the branch Genealogists’ Workshop.
The presentation was prepared by George Anderson UE and it covered information which he found over the years while researching the Palatines.
What is a Palatine? A Palatine is usually defined as someone who came from along the Rhine River in the Palatinate of South Western Germany. However this term can be a misnomer. Many inhabitants of the Palatinate came from elsewhere. For example, Huguenots (French Protestants) fled from France and Calvinists fled from the Netherlands to the Palatinate. Other families migrated from Switzerland to the area. They all became Palatines. This term was generally applied to all German Immigrants who arrived in America.
What was the Palatinate? The Palatinate consisted of two small regions in southern Germnay near the Rhine River. The Lower or Rhenish Palatinate which was also called the Pfalz was located in southwester German east of Luxembourg along both sides of the Middle Rhine River. The Pfalz included the present German State of Mainz, Treves, Lorraine, Alsace, Baden and Wurtemberg. Heidelberg was its capital. The name Pfalz” was derived from the Latin word “palatinus” which meant palace or castle. The Upper (Bavarian) Palatinate was located in northern Bavaria, on both sides of the Naab River as it flows south toward the Danube, and extended eastward to the Bohemian Forest. The Palatines were ruled by Counts who later became Electors in the 14th century. The boundaries of the Palatinate varied with the military successes and political fortunes of the Counts Palatine. TOday the Palatinate land west of the Rhine River is part of France. The rest of the Palatinate has been absorbed into other German States.
Origin of Palatine Name. The name, Palatine is derived from the title of the ruler of the Palatinate which means the Ruler of the Principality of the Palatine. The term Palatine itself goes back to Imperial Rome. The palace of the Caesars was situated on the Palatine Hill. The troops guarding the palace were also referred to as the “palatini”.
Why did the Palatines leave Germany? Different sources cite different reasons. Here are a few. The Palatinate was the centre of a deadly conflict between the Protestant German states and France during the late seventeenth and early eighteenth centuries. Between 1684 and 1713 there were two wars, the War of the Grand Alliance of England, Holland and the German Protestant States against France, and the War of the Spanich Succession. The War of the Spanish Succession resulted from the death of Charles II of Spain without an heir. Except for four years of relative peace there was almost continuous war between 1684 and 1713. The troops of the French King Louis XIV ravaged the Palatinate, sacking the major cities, burning homes, stealing property, massacring people, destroying crops and laying waste to farms. An unexpected cold winter then occurred in 1709. The people had had enough and began to leave even though forbidden to do so upon pain of death by the rulers of the Palatinates. The Palatines fled down the Rhine to Rotterdam, Holland and then to England. The British Government circulated the “Golden Book” which was written by Reverend Kockerthal, throughout the Palantinate. It described British America as teh Land of milk and honey.
Final Remarks of the Speaker:
My Thoughts: I have been extremely troubled by the fact that both Mr. and Mrs. Ulrich Tanner died in 1700; a child was born in 1700 with no further notes; & Samuel died in 1697. It seems Michael & Hans Jacob (1771) were the only ones that survived. Could it be that is just how it is? Or did something else happen. I began a research to find out what this Palatine meant–it was noted that Michael Danner was among the German Palatines aboard the John Goodman Ship when they migrated to American in 1727. It seems possible to me that the Tanners were possibly among the massacred people of this area as it is described.

Michael Danner’s Parents who are my Paternal 7th great grandparents
• Ulrich Danner
My 7th great grandfather
Birth 12 MAY 1667 in Britzingen,MULLHEIM,LOERRACH,BADEN
Death 9 Feb 1700 in Britzingen, Breisqua-Hochschwartzwald, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany

• Chrystina Reitlickerin
My 7th great grandmother
Birth 1674 in Baden, Mannheim, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany
Death 1700 in Baden, Mannheim, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany
Marriage to Ulrich Danner: 1689, Mannheim, Karlsruhe, Baden-Württemberg, German

• Children:
Samuel Danner (Son) 1691 – 1697
Michael Danner (Son) 1696 – 1782 (My 6th Great Grandfather)
Hans Jacob Danner (Son) 1698 – 1771
Solomon Danner (Son) 1700 – 1700
(If you will notice that none of the below have any sources to prove they are accurate. I am pretty sure the family names before this are correct and accurate, all the rest I am still looking for any proof to show they are correct or are not right. I put them in this to show what genealogy that was given at this time.
Ulrich Danner’s Parents who are my Paternal 8th Great Grandparent’s:
My 8th great grandfather
Birth May 26, 1639 in Walterswil, Bern, Switzerland
Death 9 FEB 1693 in Britzingen, Breisqua-Hochschwartzwald, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany

• Magdalena Birchering
My 8th great grandmother
Birth 1645 in Bern, Bern, Switzerland
Death 4 MAR 1693 in Britzingen, Loerrach, Baden

• Children:
Ulrich Danner (Son) 1667 – 1700 (My 7th Great Grandfather)

ULRICH TANNER I parents who are my Paternal 9th Great Grandparents:

My 9th great grandfather
Birth in Duerrneroth, Bern, Switzerland
Death in Bern, Bern, Switzerland
• Apollonia Leemann
• My 9th great grandmother
• Birth in Switzerland
• Death in Switzerland

• Children:

ULRICH TANNER I (Son) 1639 – 1693 (My 8th Great Grandfather)

HANS TANNER’s Parents who are my 10th Great Grandparents:

• Michael Danner (Tanner)
My 10th great grandfather
Birth in Lützelflüh, Bern, Switzerland
Death in Switzerland

My 10th great grandmother
Birth 1538 in Lützelflüh, Bern, Switzerland

• Children:

Michel Tanner 1572 –

Michael Danner (Tanner) parents who are my 11th Great Grandparents
• Johann Jakob Tanner
My 11th great grandfather
Birth 1509 in Lutzelflueh, Bern, Switzerland
Death 1570 in Klettenberg, Sachsen, Prussia, Germany

• Katharina Arnold
My 11th great grandmother
Birth 1513 in Bern, Switzerland
Death 1570 in Klettenberg, Sachsen, Prussia, Germany

• Children:
Michael Danner (Tanner) (Son) My 10th Great Grandfather
Elsbeth Tanner (Daughter) 1545 – 1587
Sebastian Tanner (Son) 1545 –
Peter Tanner (Son) 1546 –
Johann Jakob Tanner’s parents who are my 12th Great Grandparents
• Sebastian Tanner
My 12th great grandfather
Birth 1489 in Bern, Switzerland
Death in Switzerland

• Barbara Zwyer
• My 12th great grandmother
Birth about 1480 in Schwyz, Switzerland

Helpful Web-Site to Help with Genealogy Search

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A Follow-Up About : My Brother Fred and the Family Line Back to Adam

My brother, Fred, was, and to me, will always be, the most amazing person. He would stay on task and followed through with every project he ever did. His genealogy efforts were years of him gathering and recording his research, some the old fashion way, going to places and looking up records at libraries, churches, or other public record buildings. He wrote anyone in the family that might have any leads. He was a great organizer, along with so many other talents he developed though out his life. He also was computer savvy and he followed any leads he could on his research. It helped that his job took him over to England, where that branch of the family had lived. He lived there for the last 25 years of his life, and so he would take weekends, or holiday trips to do some of his research. He had gotten back into some royal family lines, as far back as BC 900.

When I got back home from bringing his stuff back from England in 2011, and put in his family data into two of the genealogy sites that I use: (free site) and (a site that cost, but I use the money my father gives me for Christmas to pay for this site) the other family data started to be found. I have found by working several genealogy sites at the same time, I might find one piece of information on one site, and when I put that information into the other sites, could find more information.

So how was our family able to trace one of our lines all the way back to “Adam“:

• For our family, it was some luck that Fred was able to tie us into several royal lines whose family history is a matter of easy access through public records.
• Some of it was not giving up when hitting blocks, and following every lead.
• What started with our Grandma Ellen Barrett Danner in 1925, starting to record her family history, who then passed it on to her two sons and ten grandchildren, than us, working as a group to get each other whatever information we found so we all could keep adding on to the family line, to getting this family line back to “Adam” in the Fall of 2013, it was a group effort that took 88 years to complete.
• With genealogy becoming as popular as it has become, and the fast pace that information is now being recorded on the computer it most likely won’t take other families as long as it did my family to complete different lines on their family’s histories.
• Also, know that some lines like this one, we got lucky, where others family lines, like our Danner line who happen to come from Switzerland during the period of time that much of the records have been destroyed in the many wars that have taken place in that part of the world throughout history, so we might not get back any further than the 1400 that we are at now.
• We can only go as far as recorded documents will allow us.
• I have come to feel any and every bit of family information I can find and learn from is a great source of joy and gives me a sense of family unity; to my past, present and future.
• For me places like this Blog, is a wonderful source to talk, share, learn, and enjoy the many ways we each go about finding out more about our family’s history.
• Take what you have, stay with doing the research, follow all leads, and don’t give up, or get discourage. You never know where or when you might find another break though in your family history.