Ancestors ~ Paternal Line ~ of Danny J Loveless ~ Part 1

Some of Our  Handsome  Men in Our Family

Some of Our Handsome Men in Our Family

For my blog this week I would like to start to share my husbands, Danny J Loveless’s paternal family line. It’s still a work in progress so if any of my readers could give me any advice I would be grateful for any feedback I receive. I will add some other blogs as I am able to finish getting all the facts figured out on some of the different interesting Family member’s and the stories in their lives.
Danny’s father died when he was only nine years old. He has two half-brothers from him, but they are 20 plus years older than him and one is deceased. They both had families of their own to care for as Danny was growing up so he did not interact much about their family history. Danny admittedly told me that he knew very little about his father’s family history because of his own lack of interest. Now as he has gotten older he has expressed an interest, so I have tried to learn what I could from the different genealogy sites that I use for family history research.

Here is what I have been able to piece together to this point.

Ancestors ~ Paternal Line ~ of Danny J Loveless
William Lovelace Luvlaz (1247 – 1270) is Danny’s 19th Great Grandfather (GGF)
John I Lovelace (1270 – 1300) is Danny’s 18th GGF
John Lovelace II (1300 – 1363) 17th GGF
John Lovelace III
(1330 – 1417) 16th GGF
John Lovelace IV (1360 – 1417) 15th GGF
Robert Richard Lovelace (1395 – 1466) 14th GGF
William John Lovelace (1435 – 1495) 13th GGF
Sir William Lovelace II (1480 – 1541) 12th GGF
William Lovelace III
(1527 – 1577) 11th GGF
Sir William IV Lovelace (1561 – 1628) 10th GGF
Sir William Lovelace (1583 – 1627) 9th GGF
Thomas Lovelace (1615 – 1689) 8th GGF
Thomas William Lovelace (1650 – 1763) 7th GGF
John Baptist Lovelace (1689 – 1765) 6th GGF
Thomas Loveless
(1706 – 1736) 5th GGF
John Loveless (1736 – 1811) 4th GGF
Joseph Loveless (1778 – 1829) 3rd GGF
John Jasper Loveless (1807 – 1880) 2nd GGF
James Washington Loveless
(1828 – 1889) GGF
David Henry Loveless (1862 – 1934) Grandfather
Carl Edwin Loveless (1904 – 1962) Father
Danny J Loveless Son of Carl Edwin Loveless

Some Interesting Loveless/Lovelace History that I found as I researched Danny’s family history:

1. The family names of Loveless and Lovelace all began as Lovelace.
• In pre-revolutionary
times the family was divided by political interests.
• The Tories or Royalists kept the Lovelace name and either returned to Europe or removed to Canada.
• In defiance the Patriots or Rebels who wanted to break away from England and to become Americans changed the name to Loveless. As you can see we come through the Patriots or “Rebel” side of the family 😉 This helps me understand where my husband got the Rebel in him.

2. In early records the Loveless/Lovelace name appears under many different spellings including Loulas; Luvlace; Loveles; Lovelisse; Lawless; Laghless; Laueless; Loweless; Lovelas; Louelace; Lovelass; Lovis.

3. Tradition says that the name originated from Loheac, who was a captain of a free company in the service of Edward the Black Prince, and he subsequently settled in England. I was not able to find any proof to back up this claim or to find out the first name of this man named Loheac or where he came from. Edward the Black Prince lived from 1330-1376. He was one of the most famous warriors of the middle ages. John Lovelace II (1300 – 1363) who is Danny’s 17th GGF, John Lovelace III (1330 – 1417) who is Danny’s 16th GGF and John Lovelace IV (1360 – 1417) who is Danny’s 15th GGF. These men all lived during Edward the Black Princes time period however to date I have not been able to find any data that links any of them with Edward the Black Prince. I have also been able to find an additional two generations of Danny’s family line, John I Lovelace (1270 – 1300) is Danny’s 18th GGF and William Lovelace/Luvlaz (1247 – 1270) is Danny’s 19th Great Grandfather (GGF) I do have my doubts as to the actual facts of this claim, but I try to keep an open mind and I will keep researching until I can prove or disprove its claim.

4. Lovelace (Loveless) is an old English surname derived from the “wearing of a love token”.

5. The Lovelace’s are Bethersden England’s most famous family; William Luvelaz is the earliest recorded member of this town and he is shown as witness to a Bethersden deed not later than 1247.

6. John Lovelace III (1330 – 1417), Danny’s 16th GGF; in 1367 purchased from William Kinet a manor in Bethersden, that was west of the parish church, which was afterwards variously known as “Bethersden”, “Bethersden-Lovelace”:, and “Lovelace Place”.

7. John Lovelace IV (1360 – 1417), Danny’s 15th GGF. He is mentioned as proprietor of the Lovelace Place, this took place in 1412 when he bought some marble pits in Bethersden from John Gybon. He died before April 15, 1417. A charter from Henry V (who reigned 1413-1422) mentions John Lovelace IV as heirs and landholders in Bethersden, and John Lovelace IV was buried with wife Joane or Johanna in the Bethersden Church.

8. Sir William Lovelace,(1583 -1628) Danny’s 9th great grandfather died in the great battle Siege of Groll, Holland, in the Netherlands. He married about or sometime before 1610, the granddaughter of an Elizabethan Chief Baron of the Exchequer, Her name was Lady Katheren Anne Barnes. She was born about 1587, the youngest child of Sir William Barne(s) and Anne Sandys. Known as Sir William Lovelace of Woolwich through his new wife’s estate but was called Sir William the younger in will. In May, 1609, he was referred to as Captain William Lovelace, who was a member of the Virginia Co. and a Knight of Bethersden-Kent, and direct ancestor of the Bethersden line.

9. Richard Lovelace, (1582 – 1657) Danny’s 8th great grand uncle, was the oldest son of Sir William IV Lovelace (1561 – 1628), Danny’s 9th GGF, and the Brother of Sir William Lovelace, Danny’s 8th great grandfather (1583 -1628). Richard Lovelace was known as the Cavalier poet, courtier and soldier. In 1642 it was wrote that Richard Lovelace, was “reputed to be the handsomest man in England.” This explains where the men in our family get their good looks. During this time England was faced with the prospect of war with France, so King William asked Parliament to authorize the creation of a standing army in England. This they refused. Many in England were angered by the decision and sent appeals to Parliament to that effect. The people of Kent (the county closest to France and so the most likely to be ruined, and the one that the Lovelace family lived in) wrote the “Kentish Petition” and chose five men to carry it to London to present it to Parliament, Richard Lovelace was one of this five men. The Commons declared the petition seditious, and the men were arrested and imprisoned. Richard Lovelace was sent to the Gatehouse Prison, Westminster.
Lovelace petitioned the Commons for his liberty, and late in June 1642 he was released on personal bail of £IO, 000. Unable, without forfeiting his bail, to fight for Charles I, he instead supplied his brothers with money. Lovelace is known to have been at Bethersden at various dates between 1642 and 1647, he was selling his property there piece by piece to Richard Hulse of Great Chart. In 1645 and 1646 he was in the Low Countries, serving apparently as a Colonel in the French army, and he was wounded at Dunkirk in 1646. After his return to England, he was among the Royalists that defeated and captured Fairfax at Maidstone in 1648. Once again he was imprisoned in London; he died aged less than 40 in 1657 and was buried at St. Bride’s, Fleet Street.

10. During the Commonwealth the poet’s, Richard Lovelace’s surviving brothers, Capt. Thomas, Col. Francis and Capt. Dudley Posthumus Lovelace all went to America, and after the Restoration, Francis Lovelace was the Governor of New York 1669-72. Captain William Lovelace, Danny’s 9th great grandfather (1583 -1628) who died in battle was not able to go to America, but he was one of the original members of the Virginia Co and some of his children were able to go to America. Among them was Thomas Lovelace (1615 – 1689) Danny’s 8th GGF who settled in New York, and his older sister Anne Barne Lovelace and her husband John (Rev) Gorsuch who settled in Jamestown Virginia. This is why, and when those in our Lovelace family came to live in America.
Loveless Lovelace Line

One thought on “Ancestors ~ Paternal Line ~ of Danny J Loveless ~ Part 1

  1. That is pretty cool, as I have just found out that I also am in that line as Sir William Lovelace married Anne Lewis whos son married Lady Elizabeth Aucher and it goes down to my Grandfather Charles H K Lovelace.
    Charles Lovelace

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